[Facebook] Anti-Z ≠ Anti-S ≠ Anti-I

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Yes, the vast majority of people who claim to be anti-Zionism probably are anti-Semitic.  (This has certainly been my experience.) But it’s still important to keep the two concepts distinct, or else you risk demonizing people for something they are not.  And the more empty charges get flung around, the more dismissive people become of the real thing.

It’s also important to recognize that true anti-Zionism needn’t entail being anti-Israel.  It’s perfectly possible to reject the principles of Zionism while remaining a strong supporter of Israel and its people.

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[Facebook] Anti-Z, Pro-I

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Most of the time Anti-Z is simply code for Anti-S, and the one follows from the other.  Most of the time — but not always.  I don’t understand why you keep insisting the two are equivalent, unless you are deliberately being provocative.  (In which case I support you 100%.) 👌

And for the record, it is perfectly possible to be opposed to Zionism yet still be Pro-Israel.

I don’t like Zionism. I don’t like ethnicity-based nationalism period.  I think national identity is properly derived from the values of it people, rather than people deriving their the values from any fixed ancestral or cultural identity.

I couldn’t care less about these “indigenous rights” arguments you’re always having.  Whether or not a Jewish state SHOULD have been established smack dab in the middle of a very hostile area is a moot point — Israel is there, and as far as I’m concerned, anyone who was born there (which at this point is probably the majority of the population) has just as much right to be there as someone whose ancestors have lived there for centuries.

 

Memo to L

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Hey, you’re wrong about the NPC meme being right wing, and 4chan had very little to do with it.  The 4chan mods HATED it, and almost every NPC-related thread was pruned shortly after its creation.

(They also began censoring the term ‘soy boy’ at this point.  But antisemitic and racial slurs are still a go. 👌)

There’ve been people of all different political persuasions involved in the central aspects of it — the memes, the memeing, the LARPS, the RL appearances, the articles, the videos, etc.

The beauty of the NPC meme is that it’s only offensive to the people to whom it applies.  It isn’t solely applicable to the Regressive Left, but they’re at the center of the current culture war (pushing the rest of us off into the ‘alt-right’ category), so that’s how it’s being used.

Also, don’t believe a damn thing you hear about the NPC meme from the mainstream media.  They‘ve been among our primary targets, which is why they’ve been our greatest detractors.

There were never 10,000 Twitter bots.  The retweet-bot idea was discarded 48 hours in because: capchas.  There were real people behind these accounts, and the idea was to provide a steady stream of freebased identity politics while promoting awareness of social media censorship.

We never set out to influence an election, and the NoMenMidterm meme (from July) only made a comeback after the mainstream media decided to integrate it into its “voter suppression” narrative.

When they reported that we were giving out a false voting date, we put out word to push THEIR November 7th voting date.

This is what they do. The media brought the racism and antisemitism over to 4chan back in the mid-2000s when they began reporting on non-existent racism and antisemitism.  The racists and antisemites swarmed in.

The rise of Anonymous shortly thereafter was the direct result of Greta van Susteren’s sensationalized accounts of a series of mean-spirited adolescent pranks.  Actual hackers moved into /b/ and brought with them a political agenda.

The media’s practice of creating its own news is what brought the NPC meme to life in the first place.  It had been dead for over two years when some idiot journalist decided to dig it out of the meme graveyard and claim it was being used to “dehumanize” SJWs.  The “alt-right trolls” were only too happy to comply.

Who Are Jew?

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Facebook was exploding with identity politics earlier from people who supposedly disavow identity politics.  It started off as an argument over whether Anti-Zionism necessarily entails Anti-Semitism.

It quickly turned into an argument over who has the authority to decide what Anti-Semitism entails.  Most of those who weighed in agreed that it could only be *subjectively* defined by actual Jews. 🙄

Only then they started arguing over who qualified as a legitimate Jew.  Picture a Venn diagram with three circles — labeled ‘Religion’, ‘Ethnicity’, and ‘Ancestry’.  That’s how many different definitions of ‘Jew’ there were.  And anyone who fell outside of a particular category had no right to weigh in on what qualifies as Anti-Semitism.

It was like watching feminists argue over whether ‘TERF’ is a derogatory term.

People are seriously fucking insane.  And it’s not just the Regressive Left — their “logic” is bleeding out onto the rest of humanity.