Self-described “radical centrists” are annoying as fuck. They’re just Democrats who think they’re being edgy by occasionally questioning the party line.
I don’t really like to comment publicly on abortion because I’m one of those evil, horrible people who thinks it should come down to the question of personhood and that abortion should ultimately be unregulated and de-stigmatized.
But something to think about: Suppose this is a coordinated troll on the part of the GOP designed to force the Supreme Court to rule on the question of at what point a fetus “should” be protected?
What these state legislatures are doing has the potential to greatly damage the GOP on the national level. And the GOP knows this. Bad Orange Man knows this.
So, yeah, I think they are trying to establish national abortion criteria that can’t be overturned by the whims of partisan legislatures.
I think it’ll come down to a ban on aborting “viable” fetuses, but how viability is ultimately defined (In terms of gestation? What if it’s an anencephalic or otherwise unable to survive outside the womb? What about quality of life considerations?) will likely become a separate battle altogether.
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I grew up in a secular household, so I never understood where people were coming from with the religious stuff. And things were pretty bad when I was a kid, as far as people throwing Christianity into your face. About as bad as it is now with Islam, although the crusaders of my childhood were generally non-violent.
Tay and I grew up during America’s last culture war, when people felt threatened by *legitimate* social progress and were trying to impose what essentially amounted to conservative Christian values upon others — even though it wasn’t so simple as religious vs. secular or left vs. right.
Al Gore and his wife — believe it or not — were at the forefront of those who wanted to use government censorship to keep subversive, Satanic ideas from working their way into the minds of young people. The Evangelicals were with him, unsurprisingly. But non-churchgoers and the moderately religious were not.
The same sort of media-driven outrage you see now was going on back then, only they were playing up the divide by stoking outrage over traditional “American” (i.e., conservative) values, even though the media back then was almost as left-wing as it is now.
It was about ratings — for the networks, at least. For the average Joe, it was about religion, and for the politicians, it was about political power. Both the Dems and the GOP wanted to secure their share of thr Evangelical vote, which back then was pretty evenly split.
The crusaders ultimately took it too far. People (especially young people) rebelled — hardcore. The concept of America as a judeo-Christian nation slowly began to die, except in the minds of the Evangelicals.
I’d just like to say that I support President Trump 100% on border policy. The Democrats have been the enemies of national security since the Clinton administration, and they stopped caring about America the day Trump was elected.
Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are authoritarian leftists who would sooner bring about the destruction of our nation (and blame it on Trump) than compromise their vision of America as a socialist dictatorship ruled by powerful Washington elites.
How did such people come to hold office in the first place, and why for the love of everything that is decent in this world do they keep getting voted back in? Ignorance. Fear. Deceit — everything they have accused President Trump of capitalizing upon, and probably a hell of a lot more than that.
“Accuse your enemies of that which you are guilty” is a line Pelosi, Schumer, and the entire Democratic establishment have truly taken to heart.
I’m not a Republican. I wouldn’t even consider myself a conservative, and I frequently oppose President Trump on matters of policy. Nevertheless, I have a tremendous amount of respect for President Trump, and I consider him the most valuable ally anyone could ask for in this cold war against the Regressive Left.
That’s bullshit. Part of having the right to vote is being able to choose when NOT to vote. You teach American government — you of all people should know this.
Do you honestly not see the problem with telling someone he can only express an opinion if he exercises his voting rights as YOU see fit?
There are plenty of registered Democrats who have vowed to stay home from the polls because they’re disgusted with their party. They’re trying to sending a message, and they have EVERY right to complain.
I managed to leave off “without being lectured by an entitled sneuflake”. But that’s totally how it should have ended.
This same person once had the audacity to suggest that Trump only won in 2016 because the people who voted for him didn’t know any better. 🙄
All right, everyone — listen up, because an astonishing number of you don’t seem to understand the overwhelming support behind Brett Kavanaugh, or how the SCOTUS confirmation process even works.
The President can nominate whomever he damn well pleases, and it’s up to the Senate whether or not to confirm. There isn’t an ideological litmus test, and it doesn’t matter how “mainstream” a nominee is, because the Supreme Court does not exist to represent YOUR interests OR mine. The only “interests” it represents are those of the United States Constitution. (Worth noting: Brett Kavanaugh is an utter caricature of Middle America.)
The only relevant concern is whether the nominee is capable of doing the job.
Think he lacks the experience to fill a seat? Fine. Think he doesn’t understand the Constitution, or how to properly apply it? That’s fine too. Have concerns about the candidate’s ethics, or do you otherwise question whether he can and will remain objective in his rulings? Then certainly, Senator, you should vote ‘no’.
But please, all of you screaming your heads off about Roe v. Wade — shut the fuck up already. You don’t actually believe Trump can be pressured into nominating someone who supports abortion; you’re just looking for an excuse to bitch about Trump.
If you had any serious concerns about Kavanaugh’s confirmation, you belonged taking them to your senator — not taking to the streets like savages or whining about it on social media.
(To anyone who contacted their senator’s office and THEN whined: 👍 But I hope they had the good sense to ignore you unless you actually had something constructive to say.)
I’m tired of all the mischaracterizations of Kavanaugh supporters, and of people reframing the issues around irrelevant topics instead of challenging our arguments directly.
This was NEVER about abortion — not for us. It was never about politics — not for us — and if you think this was a right-wing movement, you’re living in an echo chamber.
Standing With Brett was never about wanting him confirmed. It was never about the Patriot Act, or about Donald Trump, or the myth of male privilege, and we aren’t the ones seeking to politicize sexual assault.
Standing With Brett boiled down to three things:
(1) Upholding the integrity of the judicial nomination process.
(2) A reaffirmation of due process.
(3) A rejection of the #metoo movement and its underlying feminist ideology.
No matter where any one of us happens to stand politically, THESE were the three things we held in common.